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first Tuesday of every month at 10 a.m., unless severe weather is in the area.
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Can you only see the selfies via twitter?
Tue at 16:09
No. Selfies are like screenshots. They go into your screenshot folder.
Tue at 16:09
At least that's where mine go.
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Ok, I'll check again. I took one of Parlim and wanted to find it but couldn't. That is even where I went looking.
Tue at 16:12
All else fails I'll brave the forums and ask them. lol
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You should have a folder inside your WOW folder with "Screenshots" title.
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I do.
Tue at 21:27
What's a transmog site other than WOWHead? I don't really like Epi's T6 belt, even if it "goes" with the set.
Tue at 21:51
I think I recall seeing something about someone's closet? (I don't really pay a ton of attention to transmog normally)
Tue at 21:52
Technically, I don't care either, but Epi started getting the T6 set and I really like the look of it. It's the set with the wings that come out of the helm; very warlock-y.
Tue at 21:53
a googling found this: Kirina's Closet http://wowrpc.waddellconsulting.com/?page_id=24
Tue at 21:53
But the belt is brown, while the rest of the set is a bright red.
Tue at 21:54
One place I've found some useful advice has actually been wowhead comments about sets (I've seen people give advice on complimentary gear, etc)
Tue at 21:57
and tada--first comment after Mists dropped suggests http://www.wowhead.com/item=30888/anetherons-noose
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(that was based on the comments here: http://www.wowhead.com/itemset=670/malefic-raiment
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Oh thanks Wor.
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Time to go home so I'll look later.
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I'm bringing Epi tonight, although I could bring Maoohm. She's got a great partial transmog. Sunwell gear would probably be an upgrade for her. LOL.
Tue at 23:07
Hey everyone, I have a dumb question...I know it's possible to mail BOA gear cross-realm, but how about other things? Gold etc? is this possible or no?
Wed at 1:10
Pets are now on a collections tab, so you can log into your other character, cage a pet, then sell it on the AH.
Wed at 1:11
You can also buy cageable pets with gold that will sell well, learn them, then log into the other character, cage them, and sell them
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You don't have to mail heirlooms anymore because of the tab in 6.1
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ty
Wed at 15:14
Beyond those things that are account wide, Blizzard has not implemented any way to get gold or non-account-wide gear to toons of the other faction. We would love to see that happen, but they haven't implemented it and I haven't seen any signs it's being considered.
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You can mail between Llane and Arygos (or any other joined realms), but other than what Gimm and Dorelei said, you can't otherwise mail between realms (or factions)
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Kukuru's Cache

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So when Timeless Isle went live, I was curious how good the odds were at winning with this little "casino". Of course, by the time I had collected enough coins to want to start gambling, Blizzard had changed the drop rates on so many things in there from the PTR that no site I found had all that accurate information. So I decided to run my own test once it looked like Blizz was done messing with the drop rates. Listed below is my findings from 100 Keys (50,000 Coins, enough for 1 Burden of Eternity ), and at the very bottom is the TL:DR short notes.

Warning: This is a small sample size, so numbers at the bottom aren't exact. A more accurate test would consist of at least 1,000 Keys used, but for now this does give an idea of what to expect.


Test 1: Show

So first up I had Tarsan farm up some coins, and not knowing what to expect I didn't want to drop a lot of coins only to come out way behind where I started. The Timeless item, costing 7,500 from the vendor was a nice surprise at the time, and easily paid for the whole test by itself.

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Next up I sent Herc around the island. As the previous test was small, I wanted to repeat it and see if I got similar results. Roughly he earned the same amount of coins as Tarsan, but the lack of anything beyond coins made the test set him back about 2,000 coins.

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With the demo test out of the way, it was time to get some real results. After a nice chunk of Rare farming, once again Herc went forth to spend his hard earned coins. BAM right off the back we got not only enough Timeless pieces to pay off the whole test, but then a bonus piece as icing. Coin turnout was still close to what was seen in the first test, so after 50 keys the coin flow is already close to the avg. coins per chest listed at the bottom.

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After a few days break from the isle it was time to return again and continue the tests. At this point I was pretty certain that I was certain the listed chance at the Pet and a Burden of Eternity on wowhead was still wrong so I would have to keep going to get better numbers. Low and behold, a Burden drops on Chest 2, and I dropped my jaw. Being that it cost 50,000 to buy it, it not only paid off this test I was doing, but also the cost of all the test I would be conducting here.

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This test was done just not long after the previous test, with the gains Tarsan got on the last test, and with the odd coincidence all the big rares spawned one after another, he got the 15,000 coins to finish off the testing very quickly. As the between the coins coming in and the early Timeless piece, the test was already a profit, but then ANOTHER Burden drop?! My opinion on the cost of the gambling area was set. Unless Blizz changes drop rates again, then more or less its a better cost of your coins to spend them gambling then saving and buying Timeless pieces/Burdens from the vendors.




TL:DR
- Avg. Coins per Chest = 295
- % chance for a random Timless Piece = 7%
- % chance for a Burden of Eternity = 2%
- % chance at Bonkers = < 1%

For the cost of 20,500 coins (spent 50,000 coins, and earned back 29,500), I received 2 Burdens, and 7 Timeless Pieces. A 152,500 coin value. IMHO, the gambling is the way to go if your looking for Burdens or Epics
Posted Sep 21, 13 · OP
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interesting article tarsan i found a couple good chests on my druid but felt for me it was'nt as good i will try it again
Posted Sep 21, 13
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I go in the cave when I hit about 20,000 coins and then replay with the diminishing returns until I either get a Burden of Eternity or I run out of coins. I haven't been keeping tabs on the exact numbers but I've gotten 3 Bonkers, 2 Burdens and countless armor tokens. I vendor the armor tokens I don't need at 5G apiece - so thats a conversion bonus back to real gold, I disenchant the plate I don't need and the Sha's I get from that are worth big G still. So, all in all, the cave is full of "win".
Posted Sep 22, 13
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I may have to try again but so far I wasn't impressed with drop rates. I used 15 keys and got a couple armor tokens and 1 bonkers. I didn't count the coins returned but I know it was at least half of what I spent.
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Posted Sep 22, 13 · Last edited Sep 22, 13
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Wowhead seems to be down currently, but I seem to recall in the comments for the cache or for kukuru himself, a couple of people had run similar trials (post nerf). Their conclusion was that the drop rate on burden of eternity looked like it was probably set to average out to the same cost in keys as buying it directly...the difference being that chests also drop coins, armor, and a pet.

Your data suggests that the drop rate might make it cheaper straight up to go for keys, but like you said on anything with that low of a chance, you need a pretty big data set to get accurate statistics.

Either way, Kukuru seems like a better bet than just buying them, if you have the time and can afford to take a chance on being unlucky (and especially if you can still use the armor, for the toon in question or for alts)
Posted Sep 23, 13
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Wowhead also notes that there is a less than 1% chance to either get a chest that has 1 coin or 10000 coins. Now, knowing that the RNG HATES M2 guess what?

Yea, I've gotten 1 coin twice. I have yet to see the 10000 coin chest.
Posted Sep 23, 13
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No joke, I dropped another 30 keys over the weekend (all at once), and got 2 Bonkers, about 10 Timeless Tokens, and the dreaded 1 coin. Really should've been documenting it so I could start on the long haul for 1000 Keys used.
Posted Sep 23, 13 · OP
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Initially, instead of saving up my coins for the 50k burden, I gambled all the time. Probably put in about 15k or so (plus reinvest any coins I got from chests). I did not encounter any burden's, but I did get a bonkers and a bunch of timeless pieces. I'm currently saving up for the 535 trinket. After that I may have another go at gambling. My luck gambling isn't usually that great...In that 15k I spend previously I found 4 or 5 1 coin chests :(
"I grab the bag from the demon"
Posted Sep 23, 13
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